The hikers were to meet at the Boy Scout camp at 11:30 just down the road from us. So, we showed up at the designated time but no one was there except for the boy scouts. When we learned that the Boy Scout were having a knife throwing contest, we decided to stay close to the car.
Eventually, the hike staff and other hikers arrived. So, we had, 8 hikers and 6 staff when we started.